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Post by junkdna on Apr 3, 2008 9:24:01 GMT 8
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yopparaisaru
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Post by yopparaisaru on Apr 8, 2008 9:09:58 GMT 8
As awful as these slaughters are, you know that even if that video was released in Japan the japanese will just call it "Japan Bashing" and then proceed to launch an enquiry that will ultimately decide that most of the footage was faked in order to bring down the lucrative business of whaling and (dolphining?). And the real sad part is that the japanese people, will believe whatever it is their fed by the government with little to no protest. A few enlightened individuals might be tempted to do some research on their own but the grand majority will just bask in their ignorance. And meanwhile the rest of the world exluding the other whaling nations will just get more angry and will bluster about all the while powerless to do anything about it. Environmental groups will undoubtedly call for sanctions against it, but will economic power actually sanction Japan, hardly. So ultimately it will cause a big ruckus, further fan the flames of an already widely publicized (sp?) widely hated practice but will accomplish nothing in stopping the slaughter. As much as this an extremely important piece of work, I honestly don't know if I (who if you didn't notice feel strongly on the issue) would rather have remained ignorant of this little tidbit of info. Although then I wouldn't be any better than the non questioning lemmings who follow make the mistake of actually trusting the government. (any government, but to make my point especially the japanese government)
In an unrelated note, I moved into a new aparto over spring break and have no internet, so sorry for my absence, I promise more drunken monkey antics in the near future.
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Post by dickflem on Apr 10, 2008 15:14:49 GMT 8
I can understand yopparaisaru's point of view, however, I think one of the powers of a good documentary is that it can help the viewer 'experience' (in the 'hyper-real' sense) the subject which it investigates (subjects which may often be left out of the mainstream media). This kind of viewing can have a huge effect on public opinion. Documentaries have helped get people released from prison en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thin_Blue_Line_(documentary)Also they have been employed by governments for honorable purpose (as well as propaganda) books.google.co.jp/books?id=b8WG-j8PP8wC&pg=PA35&lpg=PA35&dq=nuitI don't think you can ever underestimate the power of a good documentary to infiltrate the public's collective consciousness and inform opinion. I will watch the documentary with interest and hold out hope for the public reaction to it.
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Post by junkdna on Apr 11, 2008 7:38:34 GMT 8
Oh sure, I agree with Drunken Monkey, it will be called Japan Bashing by the elite, but the nice thing about this is, if independent groups and media outlets test the footage for fakery and other tricks, they will find out it is real and I am sure they will publish the results. There are some tenacious media outlets out there these days. Granted, they bank everything on sensationalism, but in this case, something like that would work for the 'good guys'. Then again, I am not holding my breathe for anything to happen.
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yopparaisaru
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Post by yopparaisaru on Apr 11, 2008 7:58:49 GMT 8
Don't get me wrong, I would love for it to get published and spread through Japan, I just have serious doubts that the government would allow that to happen. Unless its done by freelancers on their own dime, Any credible news agency out there would face miles of red tape and government censorship before the tape ever reached public hands, if it ever did. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if after all the editing is done we have a picture of the dolphiners (?) leading the dolphins intop the killing cove and then flash to graphs of the rising economy due to the sale of dolphin meat. (toxic dolphin meat). But then again I'm cynical enough already to be 3 times my age.
I do hope it somehow gets out to the japanese public so it can affect public opinion and bring an end to this. Although instead of showing it primarily in Shinjuku it really needs to be shown in the countrysides. Where people are unconnected with the greater world and thus only have the japanese governments perspective on the issue. I'm sure if they saw the videos they would at least come to understand why the rest of the world is so pissed. Instead of just the "japan bashing rhetoric"
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Post by junkdna on Apr 11, 2008 9:13:26 GMT 8
the fact of the matter is though, it wasn't made for the japanese public. i am sure they are interested in showing the material here in japan, but they can shame japan without showing it here. besides there are plenty of expat japanese overseas, i am sure they are being engaged by others around them.
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