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Post by jed on Jun 12, 2008 10:04:21 GMT 8
I am going to try to teach my ES students how to pronounce "TH" etc (and "V") and I have been looking for a decent size cross section of the mouth showing how to make the TH sound. I want to print it out and bring to class, But I can't find one? do you know of one? thanks I have tried a few times to draw it but I get laughed at and I am not sure if it helped so .... (I mean a diagram showing the tongue in relation to the teeth etc)
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Post by gumby on Jun 12, 2008 11:34:20 GMT 8
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Post by jed on Jun 12, 2008 11:59:38 GMT 8
thats a good start
Thanks
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Post by Otaku on Jun 12, 2008 12:35:41 GMT 8
I'm not quite sure you need a diagram with these two sounds. A V-sound is what I call 'a keitai manner mode' sound. Simply bite down on the lower lip and make the sound. The sound is like a cellphone's ringtone while in manner-mode. The students always think this is funny and easily remember this sound. Also, I stress the sound has a voice because the only difference between an F-sound and a V-sound is one is silent while the other one is voiced. As for the TH-sound, this sound is achieved by gently biting your tongue and blowing out. While this sound sometimes has a voiced sound, like in 'that', it is usually silent, like in 'think'. Like I said, I think you can get away with not using a diagram to explain these two sounds. If you're not impressed with that answer, go to this website: www.uiowa.edu/~acadtech/phonetics/# You'll find what you are looking by clicking on: American English --> place --> Lingu-dental. The TH-sound is labeled as a 'Voiceless Fricative'.
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Post by jed on Jun 12, 2008 12:51:03 GMT 8
yeh, the "V" is no real problem but I have never really been able to explain how to make the "TH" in Elementary School (with my Japanese) so today decided to be radical and find a decent diagram. I am probably going over the top but .... Thanks for the input
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Post by Otaku on Jun 12, 2008 13:07:32 GMT 8
I was tackling the TH-sound today, also. I was showing them the difference between: mouth, mouse and math. They picked up on the 'tongue-biting' thing pretty quick.
Good luck!
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Post by duzzah on Jun 26, 2008 8:27:53 GMT 8
Yes. Hooray for minimal pairs! Try to make them practice minimal pairs to pick up on the differences more after you first teach the sound.
I've got all my students this year able to pronounce th, v, f, and most of them can pronounce r and l separately now. Now if only I get figure out a way to effectively teach them vowel differences. They can't produce vowel distinctions right away and tire quickly of minimal pairs whn they feel they cannot produce the sound yet (listen first, and learn to HEAR it, pleeease.... T.T).
Remember to try and cover both voiced and unvoiced th. Sometimes native teachers don't realize they're two different sounds and the kids end up confused a bit later on when a 'new' th doesn't match the th they learned.
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Post by jed on Jun 27, 2008 16:20:42 GMT 8
speaking of F watch how the kids say 4 (four)
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Post by Otaku on Jun 27, 2008 16:30:31 GMT 8
speaking of F watch how the kids say 4 (four) Hence, teaching them to bite down on their lip when they say the F-sound. I try not to bust out laughing when they say the number 4 in katakana cuz' to me it sounds like they are saying, "whore".
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